interview by OLIVIER ZAHM & ALEPH MOLINARI Life itself: On the question of what it essentially is its materialities, its characteristics, considering that the attempts to answer this question by occidental sciences and philosophies have proven unsatisfactory. OLIVIER ZAHM — We’d like to talk about the revolution of time, the Brutalist revolution, the food revolution. Which one shall we start with? CARSTEN HÖLLER — Maybe time? OLIVIER ZAHM — Interesting. So, you created these three beautiful, technological clocks that look like light sculptures, but they’re very abstract. How do you see the concept of time, which is problematic, even in science? A lot of scientists and cosmologists say that time doesn’t exist. CARSTEN HÖLLER — Yes, there has been a lot of discussion about this. I’m not a philosopher, but I can recommend the latest book from Federico Campagna, Prophetic Culture: Recreation for Adolescents. It’s about the idea that…