OLIVIER ZAHM — Roger, how did you end up living in New York?

ROGER JAZILEK — I arrived here in 1981, from London. I was studying at the Chelsea College of Arts, and I was going to move to Paris, but friends of mine were going to New York on business, and I tagged along. And I was like, “Wow, this city is amazing.” Hundreds of yellow cabs bouncing down the street. Energy. And it’s an island, of course. So, I thought: “You know what? I think I’m going to come here.” I thought I’d come here for one year. I came at the end of ’80 and stayed at the Chelsea Hotel. And I’m still here.

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